So a holistic life is not possible when there is thought, time, and the desire for identification and for roots. They prevent a way of living that is whole, complete. You hear the statement, and your question then will be, ‘How shall I stop thinking?’ It is a natural question, isn’t it?
You know that time is necessary to learn a skill, a language, or a technical subject. But you have also just begun to realize that the ‘becoming’, the moving from ‘what is’ to ‘what should be’, involves time, and that it may be totally wrong, it may not be true.
So you begin to question. Or do you just say, ‘I don’t understand what you are talking about but I will go along with it’? Which is actually what is taking place. Honesty, like humility, is one of the most important things. When a vain man cultivates humility, that humility is part of vanity. But humility has nothing to do with vanity, with pride. It is a state of the mind that says, ‘I don’t know what I am, let me inquire’, and never says, ‘I know.’
Now, you have listened to the fact that all time is now. You may agree or you may not agree. That is a dreadful thing—agreeing and disagreeing. Why should we agree or disagree? The fact is that the sun rises in the east; you don’t agree or disagree with it.
So can we put aside our conditioning of agreeing and disagreeing so that we both can look at facts, so that there is no division between those who agree and those who do not? Then there is only seeing things as they are. You may say, ‘I don’t see’, but that is a different matter. Then we can go into why you don’t see. But when we enter into the area of agreement and disagreement, we become more and more confused. The speaker has said our lives are fragmented, our ways of thinking are fragmented.
You are a businessman, you earn lots and lots of money and then you build a temple or give to charity. See the contradiction in it. We are never deeply honest with ourselves—not honest in order to be something else or to understand something else. But to be clear and to have an absolute sense of honesty is to have no illusions.
If you tell a lie, you tell a lie and you know it and say, ‘I have told a lie’, and do not cover it up. When you are angry, you are angry and you say that you are angry. You do not find causes, explanations for it, or try to get rid of it. This is absolutely necessary if you are going to inquire into much deeper things, as we are doing now. Not make a fact into an idea but to remain with the fact—that requires very clear perception.
That Benediction is Where You Are, Talk 2